Curse

Crim_Vos_Telvannis · Jun 12, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

That is all.

Male Gigolo · Jun 12, 2006, 03:33 PM // 15:33

lol

i guess i really wont try this when i get factions...

i have played with a couple of assassins in prophecy missions and they really seem to take a beating. I have to keep healing them...anyways that could be coz the guy isn't playing his role well.

WildmouseX · Jun 12, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52

yup, that's what happens when you try to tank with assassin's. play the class like a moron, end up eating dirt.

Zecarn · Jun 12, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

aye, i have an assasin, and i play it right. in and out. but i see plenty of retards who just go in....and dont come out. well...they do come out...but only from rebirth ><

Pick Me · Jun 12, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Lol, I love that picture.

However, I think the Assassin is one of the best characters in the game, purely for the learning experience.

People run in an think they can tank. Warriors had that same problem at the beginning too (until they realized how good tactics can be). Assassins fight hand-to-hand, but lack defense (both armor and skills). So they fall just like squishies. So what can be learnd from the Assassin (everyone should learn this), when you are getting pounded (even a Warrior) and no one is able to heal you, do whatever you can to escape your current situation. Defense (skill or spell) and run. Warriors still don't see that they are going to die until its too late. Some warriors say "My health is 100 of 535", they should get the picture, that your health will continue to drop until you do something about it. Monks are in the back of the line, as are ritualists, but monsters can actually walk around, attack from range, or even come from behind the group and attack the monks. So don't always expect that no one is attacking your healers, even if you are surrounded.

Basically, everyone should be always on the move. If you are taking more than 50% damage without any healing, its time for you to switch gears. Change your tactics and get yourself into a better position. Otherwise you too will end up dead.

This is why I like the Assassin, it has weak armor, good damaging skills (which forces you to go head-to-head with monsters) and 2 ways of escape. The defense spell is weak, so you can run or you can teleport away. While everyone thinks the Assassin sucks, it is a good way to learn when to flee. Thats the only thing the Assassin has going for it, the learning experience.

Splatter Mcnasty · Jun 12, 2006, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by Crim_Vos_Telvannis

That is all.

You sir, are a moron. With the right build, an assassin can do just as well as any other class.

I solo farm with assassin...in Cantha and Tyria

People like you just add to the Assassin-hate that has taken over most PUGs these days. Stop bashing on assassins and start posting builds that help people play better.

Male Gigolo · Jun 12, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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Originally Posted by Zecarn

aye, i have an assasin, and i play it right. in and out. but i see plenty of retards who just go in....and dont come out. well...they do come out...but only from rebirth ><

@ Crim_Vos_Telvannis nice printscreen lol.

lol. ya i think that's the way that class is supposed to be played.

I still see those "SUPERMAN" warriors alot.

I think most of the time the problem is they wait for the monks to heal. They have ways of healing themselves but absolutely refuse to use it until they have 50 health left. And 2 weeks ago I was doing THK mission and there was this ranger who waited til his health was below 100 before he decided to use Troll Unguent.

that was soo hilarious.

Anyway guys I totally have no clue about the assassin class. my question is if they have a self heal skill like Heal Signet like the warriors?

Crim_Vos_Telvannis · Jun 12, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by Splatter Mcnasty

You sir, are a moron. With the right build, an assassin can do just as well as any other class.

I solo farm with assassin...in Cantha and Tyria

People like you just add to the Assassin-hate that has taken over most PUGs these days. Stop bashing on assassins and start posting builds that help people play better.

Oh calm down, I didn't say they sucked.
I said if you're starting an Assassin, you will die. A lot.

Just take a pill and enjoy the funny picture.

wilebill · Jun 12, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

Many assassins do die a lot. I did at first. The assassin has a steep learning curve. The most important lesson is get in, do what you can, get out at the first sign of trouble.

uncleBen · Jun 13, 2006, 10:04 AM // 10:04

I went for the survivor title ... died once at lvl 19 on a quest that would've made me lvl 20 and a survivor... *sigh* that hurts, was hoping people would let me group if I had that lol. Still 1 death at lvl 20 is still pretty rockin! haha

isamu kurosawa · Jun 13, 2006, 12:18 PM // 12:18

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Originally Posted by uncleBen

I went for the survivor title ... died once at lvl 19 on a quest that would've made me lvl 20 and a survivor... *sigh* that hurts, was hoping people would let me group if I had that lol. Still 1 death at lvl 20 is still pretty rockin! haha

I was going for suvivor for the same reason, then died to lag

GloryFox · Jun 13, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Quote:

You sir, are a moron. With the right build, an assassin can do just as well as any other class.

I solo farm with assassin...in Cantha and Tyria

People like you just add to the Assassin-hate that has taken over most PUGs these days. Stop bashing on assassins and start posting builds that help people play better.

I must agree with the above post. I have found my Assassin build to be far more effective in PvE then my double echo Ele nuker because of an assassin’s ability to surgically strike. This kind of post just adds to assassin hate.

SparhawkJC · Jun 13, 2006, 04:06 PM // 16:06

What adds to assassin hate are unskilled assassins.

Claymore · Jun 13, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Basically Assassins are wildcards, when the battle starts turn then loose, if the assassin is good he/she knows how to stay alive. If they have even grasped this concept they also know that standing toe to toe with a tank is a bad Idea.
We just have to be tolerant and wait it out, just like the rangers when Prophecies first came out, nobody knew how to play them and there was ranger hate. The unskilled assassins will grow tired of eating dirt and quit the class, eventually those that remain will be quality assassins, and the class will have its day.

Killmur · Jun 13, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Claymore

Basically Assassins are wildcards, when the battle starts turn then loose, if the assassin is good he/she knows how to stay alive. If they have even grasped this concept they also know that standing toe to toe with a tank is a bad Idea.
We just have to be tolerant and wait it out, just like the rangers when Prophecies first came out, nobody knew how to play them and there was ranger hate. The unskilled assassins will grow tired of eating dirt and quit the class, eventually those that remain will be quality assassins, and the class will have its day.

Good advice my man. I want to hate the assasin class but yet I want to keep playing it. I have chosen to give the class another try. Now my only beef is daggers. I have noticed that you gotta be uber rich to afford a good pair of greens or a good pair of zealous daggers.

Vecte · Jun 13, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by Killmur

Good advice my man. I want to hate the assasin class but yet I want to keep playing it. I have chosen to give the class another try. Now my only beef is daggers. I have noticed that you gotta be uber rich to afford a good pair of greens or a good pair of zealous daggers.

i picked up a pair of gold req8 golden talons 15^50 7-17 for 40k, and i bought a zealous mod and a +30 fortitude mod from a person for 25k. In essence, that really is not that bad of a price. just look around, you just need to find the right people willing to sell.

as for the picture posted, i don't really see it as a bad thing. if you read the title, it says, a word of advice for those making an assassin. that means this picture is aiming towards players new to the class. it is warning them that they will die a lot when they first start playing the class. Once they have played it enough, they will learn how to stay alive and become very useful.

*word of advice to any new assassins. if and when you do die a good bit, its not the class, it is the player. just keep going at it until you can get the proper skills and skill caps, and you will be able to play the class like it is meant to be played. Also, watch the assassin henchmen, for some reason they seem to play the assassin how its meant to be played

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wsmcasey · Jun 13, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

All professions are good. Only "PEOPLE" can give a certain profession a bad name by not understanding how to play their class with a group of other real people.

Example: I was doing the "Unwelcomed Guest" 15 point attribute quest last night. Here's the party line up:

ME....lvl15 Ranger Trapper (group leader)
lvl14 healer monk
lvl17 assasin
lvl20 Ranger Trapper (my guildie came to help)
lvl20 air elementalist
lvl14 ritualist

Now....you might be thinking that this would be a piece of cake because we have level 20's in our group and we are doing a quest on the starter island, but it was a nightmare!

My basic plan, since I was group leader:

1)Rangers set traps and pull on the front lines.
2)monk stays on the back line and heals.
3)ritualist and elementalist stay on the back line and help clean up the monsters that didn't die and also focus on enemy casters.
4)assasin stays on the back line to protect our casters from enemies that break thru our front line.

Seemed like a good plan..............guess what..........the assasin was awesome and did his job! Everyone on the team was doing an awesome job, except for one, and it only takes one......

The lvl20 elementalist screwed over our team the entire quest and insisted on pulling and or running in to mobs and getting her self killed.

After the elementalist died her 5th time, we just gave up on her and left her dead for the rest of the quest.

I'm sure she still got her 15 attribute points after the quest was over by speaking with the npc in town, but she really didn't deserve it.

GloryFox · Jun 13, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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posted by Killmur
Good advice my man. I want to hate the assasin class but yet I want to keep playing it. I have chosen to give the class another try. Now my only beef is daggers. I have noticed that you gotta be uber rich to afford a good pair of greens or a good pair of zealous daggers.

Do what I did.
Make your assassin for now and grab the zealous daggers with one of your other characters when you get your green option at the end of factions. It makes all the difference in the world.

Killmur · Jun 13, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Vecte you might be able to afford 65K but I can't. I have noticed that really good mods and daggers for assasins are well over 30-40K+. I am not rich at all. I only have about 50K in storage. I can't afford to waste all my hard earned gold on items that will drain me of my funds. I have 6 characters to maintain. Aint easy getting gear for a assasin. All I have are SHiro's Blades(Nice skin, icky requirement) and Daggers of Xuekao(nice stats but not worth using).

Gloryfox: I might do that.

Sidenote: I just snagged at the last 29 seconds of the auction a sweet pair of Celestial Daggers for 5K. Skin aint all that great but meh so what. 7-16, Requires 8 in Dagger, 15^50 and +7 Vs Physical. Stats are not bad. Just need to add a zealous mod for now.

Vecte · Jun 13, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

well killmur, i realise your distress in not being able to afford a nice pair of daggers, imo, any assassin should have a good pair of daggers. let me know what mods you like, and ill get you a pair.